Jackson: Well, Hey guys, it is, uh, Wednesday, August 31st. It is the end of August, finally, and we are glad to have you with us. We are here to talk about all things, bar exam related, Megan. Hi, how are you?
Megan: Hi doing well. How are you?
Jackson: Good, good. I am excited that we're finally getting out of August and we are entering the season of bar exam results. As we turn into September, that's always, uh, uh, exciting and, uh, interesting time to say the least. Isn't it.
Megan: Yeah, I know. I, I kind of enjoy it. It's like, uh, every day, you know, sometimes we know that there's results coming that day. Sometimes we just get surprises, which is always fine.
Jackson: <laugh> yeah. And, and there are some surprises that always happen where at that time of the year where we know a few states have dropped results and then a few just do it. I mean, they just sort of appear, right. And we're like, oh, there you go. So we're going to talk about that today. We're going to talk a little bit about, we've gotten the very first results and we're going to answer some student questions and, uh, so we're glad to have those of you who are with us live on the call today. If you're watching later on replay, glad to have you with us as well. Uh, we're going to be on a regular Wednesday, uh, uh, protocol now going forward, uh, as we start to get into the rhythm of the fall and heading towards February also want to let you know that, uh, our fairy godmother, June is feeling a little under the weather today, so she's not with us. So Megan's just you and me trying to once again, trying to navigate our way through, right?
Megan: Yeah, we got it. We got it. And we hope June feels better soon. Yeah.
Megan: All right. Wonderful. Well, let's dive right into our announcements. Um, lots of, uh, interesting things happening. We are also in the timeframe, as you said, Jackson, where we're getting the results. And so what we will do here on the webinar is every time there are new results, we will update you with the information we have, which includes pass rates. So as much as information as we have will give to you. Um, and then I'll also let you know what states we believe are coming up in the next week, uh, with the caveat that for a lot of states, they never announce when they actually are going to release. And so sometimes it's just, you'll have to wait and see the next Wednesday what came out.
Jackson: Yeah. And they have this bad habit of releasing right after we record this. Right. <laugh>
Megan: Yeah, exactly. You know, it is better though, now that we do it on Wednesdays instead we used to do 'em on Fridays and that Friday is a big, uh, bar exam results day. So yes, much, much better that, uh, you know, it used to be we'd record on a Friday afternoon. And then all of a sudden, a bunch of states would drop that night at like five. O' great. So chat first about, uh, a couple of housekeeping things first is that the Florida for Florida students, the Florida July essays are in your books online now. Uh, so Jackson, where can people find those, if they want to see what the essays were from the previous exam?
Jackson: Yeah, right now today, if you go to your digital, uh, outlines or digital, uh, section of, uh, the material, it'll be an assignment in the, uh, I think it's in the very first. Let's see. Now that I've said that, I mean, let me make sure I'm not messing up. Okay. In unit one, it says welcome to your past the Florida bar exam success course. And I believe it's unit 1.2 or less than 1.2, the digital course library contains the, uh, copy of that book. And you can, uh, take a look at it there. Now in the next couple of days, we'll actually set that up as a separate PDF. And you'll be able to find that in a later lesson where we've got all the recent exams, but if you want to look at the questions themselves right now, we've got those in the digital library for you and Megan, we're not putting in model answers right now to that, those questions. Am I correct about that?
Megan: Correct. And that's because we are going to be trans, the bar exam is going to be transitioning in a couple of years. So we have quite a few model answers already written in every course. And so we feel like that's sufficient. Um, considering that the format of the exam will be changing soon. We didn't want to ask our editors to spend all this time working on the models only to have to throw them away, uh, in just a couple exams cycles. So that's why, but the, uh, questions are there. So, uh, feel free to, to look through those, to practice those. When you get deeper into your studies, you wouldn't need to practice them quite yet.
Jackson: <laugh> yeah. Nobody should need to look at them right now. They're just there for you. But when you get closer, make says, you'll probably want to do some of those. And if you are a repeat taker from the July exam, cause we don't know that yet. Cause those results haven't come out. But if it turns out that you're a repeat taker, you're probably going to want to do those. And Megan and I will talk to you about your, uh, answers at that point. So that's where we stand on Florida.
Megan: Great. All right. Next announcement is about group coaching. So I'm going to run down these for you. Um, and June has imparted this information to me cuz I know it's always a, a lot in shifting. Um, this is where we stand right now. So Briana's call is going to be Tuesdays at 6:30 PM. Eastern starting September 6th. So again, not yet where this is like next week, once we get into September, then we're starting group coaching. So Tuesdays at six 30 June, her mindset coaching call will be Wednesdays at 8:00 PM Eastern time starting September 7th. Bob is going to be Sundays at 12:00 PM. Noon Eastern time starting on September 11th. And Amanda will be Mondays at 12:00 PM. Noon Eastern time starting September 12th. So hopefully that makes sense. The earliest group coaching call we've got starts in terms of dates start September 6th. Then another one will start September 7th, then another one on the 11th and another on the 12th. So that means that even though Brianna's will start on a Tuesday Amanda's, which is Monday, isn't start till the next Monday. So hopefully that makes sense. We will have a lot of that information up in the community group. Um, we will be reminding you so don't panic if you're like, that was confusing, but, and
Jackson: Although, and all the links are in the community group. That's actually how you get on the call. You just go to the events tab and you'll, you'll be able to jump in for those of you that don't know what group coaching is about. This is a benefit that we offer to all of our students. It's part of your course and we encourage you to take advantage of it. It's the opportunity to get on a zoom call for about an hour or so. Typically we have about 10 to 15 students on the call and it's a chance to do some accountability, to get some encouragement, to ask questions, to just be working. Now, Amanda, Bob and Brian are all former successful celebration bar review students and they, they are incredibly successful and they've been in a variety of circumstances in coming into the exam. You will enjoy any or all of those calls and they all have their own unique perspectives and approaches.
Jackson: And I would encourage you to just jump in and, and try a call with each one of them and see where you feel comfortable. And very often I think Megan people kind of tend to gravitate towards one or another of those three coaches, but then June does something completely different than the other three coaches. Cause you might know, June is a certified mindset, uh, coach, she does mindset coaching for us. We're going to talk about boot bootcamp and uh, in a few minutes and she is part of the bootcamp, uh, presenters, but June does this mindset coaching in her coaching call. That is really the thing that people really go just love. I mean, it, it, that is the packed call week after week after week. So even if you're doing a call, let's say with Amanda, I would really encourage you to do June's mindset call because there's just nothing like it really anywhere else in bar review. And she is a miracle worker with what she can do.
Megan: Yeah, definitely. So, um, everybody should be on group coaching calls. They're included in your course. There's no, uh, charge for them. So there's just really no reason not to do them. We feel like it's a really vital resource for people. And so we just do that for literally every single one of our students and we encourage every single one of you to take advantage, uh, super helpful, great to be in community with one another, since we can't be together in person for the most part, other than boot camp, which we'll talk about later. <laugh>
Megan: Right. All right. So let's move on to results. Um, not a lot to report this week as it's the very first, uh, beginning. Uh, but we do have West Virginia released, they had a 57% overall pass rate that is consistent with last July. So there's nothing alarming in that. Um, obviously West Virginia is a very small jurisdiction. I believe there was like a hundred and something people who took the exam, but it is really helpful to always see Hey with these early states that come in, is there a big difference? Did we see that it was a really difficult year? Uh, really easy. What's kind of going on. So always a good sign when the, the numbers look similar, um, in west,
Jackson: Let me just add, I think West Virginia is a UBE jurisdiction, so that is, uh, significant for us because we want to see what that number looks like. So what Megan's saying is that because the pass rate this year looks very similar to the pass rate from last July, that's a good early Canary in the coal mine number for us, right?
Megan: Yeah, exactly. Um, albeit low, you know, but we're used to low. So <laugh>, that's the hard thing. Um, in, in West Virginia they did break it down further. So their first time takers had a 63% pass rate and then their repeaters had an 18% pass rate. Uh, that is unfortunately, while it's very low, that is also in line with what we're used to seeing with repeat pass rates, uh, for the last couple of years. So yeah,
Jackson: We're, we're going to look at about a 20% pass rate that's for repeaters. That's what we would expect now before anybody has a heart attack, our pass rate for celebration bar review students who are P takers far exceeds that number, but that's the national number. And so that's a number that Megan and I are watching very carefully in every jurisdiction where it's reported. We want to see what's happening in the repeat taker market and, um, you know, 18% is a pretty miserable number, but not an inconsistent number.
Megan: Yeah, exactly. All right. And then Wisconsin also released, uh, but they have not released any, uh, data yet, so we don't know their past rate percentage. I'll let you guys know when we do, uh, Wisconsin is not a UBE jurisdiction. Um, they're also a little different because they, uh, if you went to a Wisconsin, like if you went to Wisconsin law school and you're going to practice in Wisconsin, you actually don't have to take the bar exam. So it's a very odd jurisdiction in terms of not very predictive for the rest of the country anyway, but I want to let people know that those results were released. Um, upcoming, we have Iowa is going to release September 2nd and Kansas will be either September 2nd or the eighth. So that's what we have upcoming. It's really quiet at the beginning of September when we get to about mid-September, it starts to come a little bit more fast and furious, and we know obviously Florida, you're waiting for that. mid-September so, um, we will keep you guys updated and next Wednesday I'll have updates with any new information that we have on results.
Jackson: Yeah. And, and I would just say this as you're waiting for results, um, just stay calm. Don't get terribly, uh, worried about what you're hearing, uh, in social media or, you know, generally out there, um, the results will be the results. And so far in these early, uh, numbers, we're not seeing, seeing anything that surprises us. Uh, we would expect a pass rate for repeaters around 20%. We would expect a pass rate for first time takers, 60% or so in most jurisdictions. So that those are the target benchmark numbers that we're looking for. If you see something wildly off of that, the first question to ask yourself is what's the sample size. Uh, if it's really small, don't worry too much about it.
Megan: Yeah, definitely. All right. So as we're talking about results coming in and people who are maybe going to need to take the, uh, February exam Jackson, let's talk about bootcamp, which is coming up in October.
Jackson: Yeah. For those of you that know pre prior to COVID, uh, we did a couple of boot camps a year, which were live, uh, programs here in celebration, Florida, uh, two or three day kinds of training sessions. Now post COVID were coming back on October 14th and 15th for a two day intensive workshop. Um, Megan's going to join me and June's going to join me. And the three of us are going to be teaching in a very small environment. Now we've done typically boot camps with 40 50 or more students for this particular boot camp. We made a decision to limit enrollment to 15 students. That's one, five. And the reason for that is twofold. We wanted to be mindful of and safety and health concerns. And secondly, we really wanted to give individual attention. What we've discovered over the years with bootcamp is that the people that come to bootcamp pass the bar exam, they, they just do it.
Jackson: And so, uh, I, I don't know if it's a cause and effect or it's correlative, but one way or the other, the people that are at bootcamp tend to pass. So what we wanted to do was to provide really intensive instruction in a couple of areas. First, I'm going to be teaching the entire photo reading system to everyone that's there at boot camp. So whether you're a photo reader or not, I'm going to take you through and show you how to, to photo read. But then more importantly, because it's not all that difficult to teach photo reading, I'm going to show you how to apply photo reading to your bar studies, specifically how to, um, mind map, how to use photo reading for essay, writing, how to use photo reading for the MBA, even how to use photo reading for performance tests, if that's part of your exam. So I'll be doing that specific kind of work. Megan, I'll be helping me with the mind mapping, cuz she's pretty good at that. Um, she's actually very good at it. Then Megan will be working, uh, on essay writing and performance test writing in small groups. Uh, so you're getting really individualized attention. Am I saying that correctly? Megan? Yeah. Okay.
Megan: Yeah, definitely.
Jackson: <laugh> yeah. Yeah. And, and, and I'm, I know I'm sort of putting on the spot. She's like whats he going, I, I just want people to understand that what you're going to get is this, uh, really focused training on writing for your jurisdiction, where your writing and Megan is right there, literally looking over your shoulder and helping you write. So that's, that's a, a unique piece. And then the third part of bootcamp is that J will be doing small group mindset coaching. So this is the coaching that she normally charges for in her climbing the chaos program. And she's going to take five students at a time to do mindset coaching, sitting out in the nice pool area, outside the, uh, artisan clubhouse here in celebration. And I'm going to be teaching, uh, you know, how to mind map and, and applying photo reading. And then Megan's going to be doing these breakouts on essay writing.
Jackson: So we're putting all that together over two days, uh, here in celebration, which is right outside of Orlando. And again, it's October 14th and 15th. Now the good news is that we, as I said, we're going to take 15 students for, uh, this as, uh, this spot, this boot camp, we, uh, still have spots left over, or we still have spots open. So to register, all you have to do is go to our webpage. Uh, and you'll see at the top of boot camp link, and then you put down a deposit which is fully refundable. Um, we had set a deadline, I believe it was earlier. We had set a deadline of September 10th to pay your balance, but we've actually extended that back. Am I correct Megan?
Megan: Yes. Correct. Cuz we realized that the Florida students are going to get their results back. The people who took the July exam will get their results back just after that and felt like, you know, we should probably give them the opportunity as well. We've gotten a lot of feedback from students saying, you know, I took the July exam. I'm not sure how it's going to go. I really, really wish that I could go to bootcamp if I don't pass the exam. So it kind of means two things. One, if you're a July taker and you're going to get your results before the new September 23rd deadline, then you should hop on that right away, know that you're going to be, that'll be available. You number two, that means if you're a February taker, not waiting for July results. And you're thinking, gosh, I probably want to go to boot camp. You should probably do that. Like this week, put the deposit in because um, I would really hate for you to think, oh great. I have time. I have time. And then the Florida students particularly get their results back and suddenly there's no spots left. So, um, yeah, just
Jackson: And the deposit is the deposit is only two $50. It's fully refundable. So let's say you're a Florida July taker and you're, you're not competent in your results. I would put down the deposit, you have no risk at all, a hundred percent, no risk, um, and reserve your spot. And that way, if you pass, you get your money back, you're done, right. It's easy. Uh, and if you didn't, you've got your spot reserved. Now we are going to hold those 15 spots open to our own students. First, if we don't fill all 15 spots, which I doubt, but if we don't, we're going to open this up to people that are not celebration borrowing students. So if you're listening to this later in the podcast and you're interested, you can go to the link, uh, on the, uh, the, the podcast page. Uh, you can find that and you can place a deposit and we will put you in a waiting list, uh, pending, uh, uh, what our students do. Um, you know, we, to be perfectly candid, we don't know how many students would come to a boot camp in this post COVID world. So we're, we're kind of taking it step by step. And, and I'm not going to pretend that we, you know, in olden days we were getting 40, 50 students very easily to these boot camps. So I don't know what's going to happen in a COVID world. The other question that's come up, Megan is why won't you do it virtually. So you, do you want to address that a little bit?
Megan: Yeah. I mean, I think to, to that extent, it's like we already do that in that way of like, if you want writing help, I do the personal writing workshop. You should a hundred percent do that with me. You can have coaching with Jackson or with me, you can do mindset coaching with June the point of boot camp. And what makes it really unique is obviously we're not just doing the same thing, right? So it's not like you're going to be like, well, gosh, I already did the personal writing workshop. And she's just going to say the exact same thing, but it's that we're talking in an interactive a much more interactive environment where we are collaborating all of us together, you are having for me and really varies for each person. But for me, particularly, the big key is I can watch you write and I can't do that online.
Megan: And that is always the thing that just kills me with some of my students is I'm like, I wish I could just sit there and watch you right out an essay because in bootcamp I'm able to do that and I can spot immediately, generally. Like here's where you're getting stuck. Okay, great. Now I know how to target for you specifically what we need to do, what strategies you need as opposed to, well, I'm, I'm kind of guessing, or I'm going off of what you're telling me. And sometimes we're not the best judges right. Of our own of our own, uh, uh, shortcomings or, or the places where we get tripped up. So I think it's like for writing, that's the really big difference is it's like, I want it to be tailored to you. I don't want to just send out a video that you could watch later. It's like, that's not, that's not what we're looking to do here.
Jackson: Yeah. And I I've taught photo reading for 15 years and really when I'm teaching it to you in person, there is, there's no comparison to when you're trying to do it on your own, I can fix problems very quickly and I can show you how to mine map and I can show you how to apply it. So all of those things are happening. Uh, June is there to do her magic. That's the only way I can put it. And in these small group settings, I think it's going to be very powerful. But then there's this final piece of just being with, you know, 14 or 15 other people who are taking the bar, uh, for a couple days, intensively, it builds a real spirit of community. It's a great support piece. We will have some guest speakers who are former successful students coming in to talk to you.
Jackson: Um, we make it a fully inclusive experience. All you have to pay for outside of the bootcamp fee is your travel and lodging. There's plenty of options for all of that here in the Orlando area. Um, the bootcamp fee is a very reasonable $2,000 for the two days. And I know that some of you're going to say, oh, I can't spend that much. Really. When you think about what you've got at risk in taking the bar exam $2,000 was nothing. Um, most of you have paid far more than that for, uh, preparation up to this point for registration and, uh, you know, just taking the bar fees in many states. And, uh, I'll just finish with this. The people that come to bootcamp pass the bar so that simple. So if you are really committed to passing, this is something you really should try to do. And you should put in your, your now go to our website, click on the, uh, link for bootcamp and you'll be taking the, got all the details there. And then you can place your final payment isn't due now until September 23rd. So you've got a little bit of time to save up some extra money or make a decision if you want to attend or not, but we really encourage you to attend.
Megan: Great. All right, let's turn to some administrative questions to try and go through these ones pretty quickly. Uh, the first is actually about bootcamp. It's a great question. Uh, this person says in going to bootcamp as a photo reader and someone who makes their own mind maps, will I still potentially need to buy more products or anything, or will most of what I need be a part of the bootcamp cost already.
Jackson: I think most of what you need will be part of bootcamp. You're going to get the writing training with Megan. You're going to get the mindset coaching with June. You're going to get the, uh, effectively, I, I do a number of webinars and you won't need those because we're going to be doing them live. You'll learn how to mine that. So I think you've got most of what you need. It's an investment in yourself. And I think it's probably a good value when you consider what would cost to add coaching, uh, mindset, coaching webinars, and other pieces. I mean, we really put all that together for you.
Megan: Great. All right, next question. Is can we download and save the lecture videos, um, off of YouTube if I can so I can listen to it while offline.
Jackson: Yeah, no, you cannot. These are proprietary and they're copyright protected what you can do. You'll see that for every lecture. There's also an audio lecture on the same page. You just have to scroll down to the bottom of the page. Now it's easy to play those while you're traveling. Let's say if you've got your, uh, your phone and you've got an internet connection, but again, you're not going to be able to download those as NQ threes. Again, it's for copyright protection. Remember that all of our materials are licensed by the national conference bar examiner. So we have to be very careful about that material and how it's put out. So that's how you would use it, but there's no downloads.
Megan: Great. All right, this person said I'm already in the basic UBE prep program. If I want the bar maps to save time, how much do they cost
Jackson: Bar maps are $400 for the complete set. And that includes all of the bar maps for all of your state specific subjects or UBE subjects and all of your multi-state subjects. Uh, so it's all one package. That's all there. Now bar maps is more than just mind maps. This is also the, uh, interactive time stamped versions of the video lectures. So you've got the full video, uh, series of lectures where you can go in and find the specific topic you want and not have to watch the whole thing again, to, to get at it. And then it has the fast finish audio, which is the, uh, sound compressed gap, air gap, compressed version of the video. So the soundtrack of a four hour video is produced down to under two hours. So all of that is included. The mind maps are there for you to use.
Jackson: Now, you would need to add a MindMeister program if you want to edit those in the computer form, but a lot of students just take them, print them out and then add to them on their own. Uh, so you've got that option, but again, it's for every subject, uh, in your course, uh, and in your exam. So that that's what bar maps is about. You can find bar maps in the upgrade center, uh, on your online course. We've put all of the upgrades in one spot it's in, uh, one of the very first units in your online course and just click on bar maps to get yours.
Megan: Wonderful. All right. And last admin question is, can I have a copy of the self affirmation script that you recited in your message for bar exam students video?
Jackson: Yeah. That is also in your online course. What you want to do is at the very end of your course, uh, there's a section called, uh, optional self care videos. And within that section, I believe there is a, uh, a place where you can get the, uh, text to that. And, uh, it's right there in the course. I know we get this question a lot, uh, because when I did the lecture, the, the test anxiety workshop, I talked about it way back in the day. Uh, but that's where you'll find it is in that very first, that very last unit.
Megan: Wonderful. All right. Our next two questions are both about mind mapping, so I'm going to kind of combine them together. And I'm sorry, my dog is a little, a little laugh today. Sorry, one sec. Okay. So the first is someone who says they're going through the crim law outline mind. Mapping's taking a long time. I'm sorry. Gimme one second. I apologize. Ju and if you want to talk about mind maps and how people should approach that.
Jackson: Okay. So there's a couple things about mind maps while making deals with news. Um, mind mapping should not take more than the time you see in your course, uh, outline. So typically we say one to two hours after you've done the first, uh, part of your reading. And if you're wondering how to mine map, you will find an instructional video. It's about 10 minutes long. It's in unit three, and it's called it's in the unit about introduction to the MBE. And in that, uh, there will be a section, uh, that's called how to create a mind map. And so Megan, if it's okay with you, I'm going to share my screen and just show that real quickly. Is that okay? Yep. All right. Let's do that. I think that probably is a better way to, to, to do this for folks. Um, okay. So, uh, when we are in I'm in the California course, but it's the same in every course, section three here, uh, introduction to the MBE and selective intuition go down to, um, less than 3.5 optional, how to create a mind map. And that's the instruction about creating a mind map if you're doing it on your own? Now, the key here is to not spend too long, creating the mind map. The goal is to spend just a relatively short period of time and then let the mind map grow as you're working along. So that's my initial response. Now, Megan, you want to gimme the, the actual question?
Megan: Yes. Great. All right. So this first student said, they're going through crim law and mind mapping was taking a long time. So they said, I'll get through it, but should I just be mapping the titles of major subjects and then drill down when I come back to crim law again, um, and they said they are photo reading each day. So should they just concentrate on the post view? So basically, like how in depth are you supposed to get in this first pass through of a subject, which is a great question. Yeah,
Jackson: It, it is. I don't think you want to get too far in depth. Um, and that's why I want people to watch that video because I actually show how to create those first couple of levels of the mind map. Um, and then let it dynamically expand as you work. I think you want to use the mind maps as the activation step if you're a photo reader, but for everybody, you just want to use the mind map to take your notes and put them in some sort of visual form. Don't get too detailed. That would be my recommendation. Do you agree?
Megan: Yeah, exactly. I think, and the other person had a, a similar question of like, it says only to spend one to two hours. So do I just sort of keep going and it's like, yes, keep going. Um, you don't, this is whether or not you mind map, this is true, but particularly helpful for mind maps is to know that you do a spiral. So you are going to come back around to these topics over and over again. We're in August, albeit at the end of August, but we have a long way to go until February. And so this is not like the last time that you're going to be in crim law. You're going to be in crim law a lot more. It might feel right now. Like I have to get everything down in crim before I move on. Right. Because I need to make sure that I know crim a hundred. I am there. I've got it. Before I move on to the next thing. That's not true. Don't put that pressure on yourself. Okay. You will be able to come back as you're doing MBE practice in CRI, you're going to be adding to your mind map a ton as you're doing essay work in crim later on, you're going to come back to it. So don't feel that pressure of it has to all get done right now.
Jackson: Right? And if you're trying to figure out how the, the mind maps might look, so we're in crim law, I just came down here in the California course. We have some optional assignments at the end of these subjects, uh, where you see something where we say the rule has been explained, this is an assignment in which Megan and I have actually done a mind map and gone through some MBA questions. So if you're looking for examples, these are great ways to get those. And the mind maps are included for those particular sub topics already in your course. So it's a great way to, to get you started there. And as Megan was saying, uh, when you get into these subjects, you'll find that we repeat and come back over and over again.
Megan: Wonderful. All right. So, Jackson, uh, the last question we've got is about the 2022 Supreme court term. I know we've talked about this, but we're still getting questions. So we really want to address it to be clear. Uh, this one we had questions about, oh, I'm assuming that I'm assuming that the, any content that had changed would be updated, but I'm sure there's nothing that's going to impact the next exam. So let's definitely talk about that. Cuz there is definitely, uh, changes. There are changes that will impact the future exams. Uh, notably I know we said this last time, I want to say it again for the UBE. It was only the July exam where they said the new Supreme court cases would not be testable. That is only for the July exam for the February exam. We have to move forward with the law as it stands.
Megan: So that means that anything that is changed in constitutional law has changed for the purposes of the February exam. Yeah. The good news is we, uh, have a lot of resources for you, so you don't have to panic about it, including the con law outline has been updated online. It is reflecting current law as it stands right now. So if you have not gotten to con law yet, which should probably be most of you when you get to con law, the outline that's there is current testable law. So take a deep breath <laugh> for that.
Jackson: Yeah. And I just want to point out that, uh, in all of your courses, you've got something called the update center. It's in one of the very first, uh, units here, it's in the very first unit, it says update center. And we're going to identify whenever we change something for this exam. So con law will show as being in multi-state book one and you'll see it there in the update center. And right now to be able to look at that, all you want to do is go to, um, the section where you've got, uh, up here. Let's see, where would it be? Yeah. Welcome to the course. And oh, I'm jumping around here. Um, yeah, digital course library 1.2 and in the digital course, library will be multistate book one, just click on it. And it's right there. Now let's talk about common law specifically and what we've done when you get to your common law assignment, study multistate constitutional law, you will see a lesson that says the 20, 22 Supreme court decisions.
Jackson: Recap. That's a video that Megan and I made going through the specific decisions of the recent, uh, term of the court. It also contains a very short outline of those cases. So if you wanted to know a little bit of detail in all the cases, you can do that more to the point is that our editors took that information, put it into the multi-state book one and took out the information that doesn't apply. So dealing with Roe or lemon or some of the other cases, right. We've removed some of that information. What I want to point out to everyone is that what we did here is that there's a lecture, two lectures in con law, Megan and I decided to not revise those lectures, even though there's some minor discussion of cases like bro. But instead if you've watched our video going in you'll know upfront, these are the change areas. And then when you get to the actual lecture, you'll be able to look at it. But part of the reason we didn't make the change, correct me if I'm wrong, Megan, is that we fully expect another raft of decisions coming down this year that are going to make a, we're going to have a, again, a pretty radical change in what we think con law looks like. And so there's really not a reason to make this change halfway through what I think is a, a fairly significant, uh, movement in the, the field. Is that fair?
Megan: Yeah. So that means that when you're listening to the lecture, there will be references to lemon. There will be references to Roe, to Casey. You will be able to then after the lecture's done, you can listen or watch the video, um, of us talking about the more detailed pieces okay. Of what's happening now. So that means you don't, don't panic. That's us telling you in that second one. That's us telling you, Hey, this is no. And I'm very explicit in those. This is what's been overruled. If anything, this was the old test. Here's the new test. Your book has the new tests, wherever applicable. Okay. So it has, the outline is a hundred percent. What you need to know, the lecture is going to have a couple of things that are outdated, but then there's an addendum that one will tell you, here's the things that are changed.
Megan: There shouldn't be any surprises in terms of the things that are changed. It's really, the big changes are really, um, the establishment clause, jurisdiction pieces, and obviously abortion rights. That's, what's really changed right now. So, um, there shouldn't be any surprises, but we lay it out for you very, very clearly. And succinctly in your outline, actually the biggest change because abortion is honestly not tested very often. Um, so the biggest change in your outline actually you might find is that the establishment clause stuff, a lot of cases relied on lemon and those are no longer. They just don't, they're not applicable anymore because the court's reasoning relied on the lemon, applying the lemon test that doesn't really tell us. So the good news for you is actually there's a lot less. I took out, uh, quite a bit of, uh, you know, words in that the establishment clause piece. And so that means there's actually less for you to study and learn now, uh, you know, so there's the bright side of it. Um, because there is very little, obviously we have very little jurisprudence now in this area, so
Jackson: Right. And the other thing that's happening will happen over the next couple of weeks is our editors are going through essay questions and multiple choice questions and where there are questions that are impacted by these decisions where pro in most cases, I think we're just removing them. Aren't we? Megan?
Megan: Yeah. Cuz we're not allowed to change them. So if we've done in the past where there have been big changes, if there's a question and it's only like a little piece of it's implicated. Sure, fine. We'll say we'll keep it in there. We might put a note in that says like part three has been removed because you know, it was like the law change. But if it's the real need of it, if they basically give you a, you know, know establishment clause one and you're expected to, you know, go through lemon. Yeah. That's really not helpful for you anymore to study that or to practice that. So we'll just go ahead and take them out. We're not allowed to change them because they weren't written by the examiners and they're under licensed and copyright. So that means we would just remove them if that was the
Jackson: Case. Yeah. So I think our advice to most of you, based on the way the courses are designed, very few of you are in con law and will be for a while. I would push that subject back a little bit in your studies. Let us get a little bit further along pay attention to what we're saying in these weekly, uh, Q and as, and we'll, we'll give you a heads up when we think the subject is completely wrapped up for, from our standpoint. Um, but I would just skip it. If you were at con law this week, I would skip it and push it back away. It won't hurt you at all.
Megan: Yeah. Great. Um, of course, if you have any questions about any of this stuff, please let me or Jackson or June know June forward on the the message. Um, we want to help you. I know this is complicated and confusing. We tried our best to make it as not complicated as uncomplicated and uncon confusing as possible. Um, the biggest thing was we wanted to get the outline pushed out to you guys as quickly as possible. So we're all set on that. Um, so you can trust that that is up to date information. Um, obviously it's just a really shifting area of law right now. So, you know, makes for, makes for a real fun time in the bar review world, for sure. Um, but we're here to explain anything. If you're unclear on what test you're supposed to use or, you know, what's applicable or not applicable anymore, then, you know, we can, if you can't find the answer in the outline or in the lecture addendum, then, you know, just shoot us an email and let us know. All right, Jackson, one last, uh, question in the chat box we're in is a great question. We're in September now. Uh, how many hours a week should we be studying?
Jackson: Yeah. I'd like you to be around 20 hours a week. That that's my goal. Great. An easy question. That's just where you need to be as about 20 hours. If you're hitting the, you know, at least a minimum of 10 wouldn't you agree?
Megan: Yes, definitely. Yeah, exactly. Um, and really, I think we always tell people not to plan out too far in advance because you need to give yourself the flexibility of life is going to happen. But I think, look ahead in your schedule broadly, right. And say for me, do I have a lot of obligations let's say to family during, you know, from new year's or from, excuse me, from Thanksgiving through new year's. Right. For a lot of people that is a really stressful, crazy time where they're going to have a lot of other obligations, Hey, then let's uh, let's try and hit that 20 hours right now. Right. And be thinking like, thinking ahead of it right. And saying, I am starting early. So let's let me give myself some breathing room when I get into the holidays. And when things get really hectic, if for you, you're like, no, I'm really smooth sailing during that time of year.
Megan: It's not too bad. I'm like work is normal, whatever great. Then maybe you're like more like 15 hours a week week right now, if that's something that, that makes sense, because maybe for you, this is a real busy time of, of your year. So, you know, we're very flexible with that, with what, but I would really advise people to look broadly ahead and say, what does my life realistically look like for the next few months? Uh, do I need to put a bigger push now in order to let myself breathe a bit later on? That's the hard thing about the February exam is we come out of new year's and suddenly we're in January and people start freaking out because they're like, oh my gosh, I felt like I had so much time. And now I feel like it's on top of me and I didn't do anything for the last several months. So don't be that person, get the stuff done. Now you, yourself 2023 U is going to be really, really grateful if you do it now.
Jackson: Yeah. And if you're listening to this as the podcast, you're watching on the podcast and you're not yet registered, this is the time to get started. Don't don't mistake that you've got extra time every day. Now, once we hit the clock on September 1st, every day really starts to matter. So make sure you check in with us and get yourself registered number one.
Megan: Yeah. All right. Awesome. Well, thanks Jackson. It was good to chat with you about all the stuff that's been going on.
Jackson: Yeah. It's good to see you. We'll see you all next Wednesday. We'll have more results. We'll have lots more student questions as people start to gear up and that's the traditional approach to September. So I hope everybody has a good labor day weekend. Stay safe. Um, continue on with your studies. If you have not started get started, if you've started, continue to keep moving through and, uh, we will look forward to seeing all of you and having a, a good, uh, beginning into the, uh, the February 20, 23 season. Thanks Megan for being here.
Megan: All right. Wonderful bye everyone.
Jackson: Bye bye.